Cory Overstreet

An Apology to my LCAL Brothers and Sisters

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Quote Originally Posted by Lou Gargano View Post
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With all due respect, how do you guys turn someone's sincere apology about matters that may have happened over the years into that person disrespecting someone?

And how can you make a blanket statement that accuses "every LUAL pilot ... to have not been happy to work for a successful airline"? For the VAST majority of my years at UAL it was a successful airline. And while I didn't care for some of the management, I was happy with the airline. What makes an airline successful versus unsuccessful?
Garry, like I stated previously, I appreciate your sincerity and don't doubt it one bit. I was just stating that some of your conclusions that you had come up with on how LUAL pilots treat LCAL pilots is seriously flawed. I would think that you HAVE had a good career....what about all the guys that are approx 50yrs and younger? Would you say that they have had a good airline career? Furloghees? Have you been furloghed? I have, and I still consider myself very fortunate to have been with CAL. My guess is that the top portion of the LUAL seniority list has had a good career but the other half might have a different opinion. Maybe I'm wrong? It has to be frustrating for the LUAL pilots to see the younger captains at LCAL that had the option to upgrade in a relatively short time frame. Unfortunately, we are all tied to our companies for good or bad, whatever the outcome. I feel that the LUAL guys from the middle portion of the senority list on down got an extremely fair deal (if not better). Now, take those same guys and listen to the comments that come out of their mouths about how they got screwed and how we are scabs, a commuter airline, etc. It seems like most of those guys are jumping at the chance to be just like us LCAL guys and fly our "Guppies"! You asked, "What makes a good Airline?"... I would say what makes a good airline is an airline that you've had good equipment to fly, one that has a seniority list that moves in a positive direction, one that is making good financial decisions for the long term, as well as, for the short term, one where the management treats employees with a little respect, and one that would give you the option to upgrade to captain in a reasonable amount of time. Legacy Continental is what comes to my mind and Legacy United hasn't had those qualities for a long time.
On a side note, I have flown with many LUAL guys/gals and have enjoyed their company and flying experience. I try to keep all the things we can't control out of the cockpit. Whomever I fly with, we always try to provide a great experience for our customers. I enjoy doing my job and then coming home to my family, period.
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    Originally Posted by Garry Kravit

    Originally Posted by Lou Gargano
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    With all due respect, how do you guys turn someone's sincere apology about matters that may have happened over the years into that person disrespecting someone?

    And how can you make a blanket statement that accuses "every LUAL pilot ... to have not been happy to work for a successful airline"? For the VAST majority of my years at UAL it was a successful airline. And while I didn't care for some of the management, I was happy with the airline. What makes an airline successful versus unsuccessful?



    Garry, like I stated previously, I appreciate your sincerity and don't doubt it one bit. I was just stating that some of your conclusions that you had come up with on how LUAL pilots treat LCAL pilots is seriously flawed. I would think that you HAVE had a good career....what about all the guys that are approx 50yrs and younger? Would you say that they have had a good airline career? Furloghees? Have you been furloghed? I have, and I still consider myself very fortunate to have been with CAL. My guess is that the top portion of the LUAL seniority list has had a good career but the other half might have a different opinion. Maybe I'm wrong? It has to be frustrating for the LUAL pilots to see the younger captains at LCAL that had the option to upgrade in a relatively short time frame. Unfortunately, we are all tied to our companies for good or bad, whatever the outcome. I feel that the LUAL guys from the middle portion of the senority list on down got an extremely fair deal (if not better). Now, take those same guys and listen to the comments that come out of their mouths about how they got screwed and how we are scabs, a commuter airline, etc. It seems like most of those guys are jumping at the chance to be just like us LCAL guys and fly our "Guppies"! You asked, "What makes a good Airline?"... I would say what makes a good airline is an airline that you've had good equipment to fly, one that has a seniority list that moves in a positive direction, one that is making good financial decisions for the long term, as well as, for the short term, one where the management treats employees with a little respect, and one that would give you the option to upgrade to captain in a reasonable amount of time. Legacy Continental is what comes to my mind and Legacy United hasn't had those qualities for a long time.
    On a side note, I have flown with many LUAL guys/gals and have enjoyed their company and flying experience. I try to keep all the things we can't control out of the cockpit. Whomever I fly with, we always try to provide a great experience for our customers. I enjoy doing my job and then coming home to my family, period.